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How to Really Interview Sales Applicants

Video Rant #8

We had a new client who was a one-man show. He had no salespeople and no revenue. We helped him advertise effectively, and he got some good sales applicants who all passed our testing. The client rejected every last one of them. I asked why? He said he only hired people with previous sales experience.

That is the basic criteria most sales managers look for in a sales applicant. I tell them, “No. Don’t do that.” And they say, “That’s what I’ve always done. This is what I’m going to continue to do.” The problem, of course, is if you do what you’ve always done, you’ll get what you’ve always got.

Einstein said creativity rules the world. Everybody thinks, “Well, Einstein was a great physicist and that’s why he figured out the Theory of Relativity.”

But in fact, it was because he was creative. He thought in a different way from everybody else. If I’m a good salesperson doing well in a team of mediocre salespeople, then I’m getting all the good leads. Why on earth would I be reading ads, looking for another job? It’s just low odds, I think.

Great thing about Facebook is, you can serve up YOUR ad on that guy’s stream. He wasn’t at all thinking about leaving. But your graphic on his stream catches his attention, and now he’s curious. So he clicks.

We’ve had hundreds of cases where we hired waiters or waitresses or blue collar workers or kids right out of college, first job out of college. We hired them for peanuts, and you couldn’t put the lid on them. They were innovating, thinking up news ways to do stuff. Fact is, the largest pool of people who can sell are NOT selling right now.

We had a client, Erica. First time I met her, she was sales manager for a public radio station in San Francisco. Then, sales manager for a Spanish radio station. She had been using our system, hired a bunch of people successfully. And she called one day, left a voicemail: “Call me immediately!”

I called. She had just interviewed a young applicant. I looked up his test results. He passed both our profiles with flying colors. Perfect sales prospect. I asked, “Did you interview him?” “Yeah.” “How’d he do?” There was a hesitancy in her voice. “Well, he’s a little rough.”

A lot of times, when you hire a salesperson who’s never sold before, they’re a little rough. But once they figure out where the money is, they smooth it down. I said, “Tell me more.” She says, “Well, it’s what he’s doing for a living. Works in a tire store.”

I said, “OK. Sells tires. That’s OK.”

She said, “No, no, no, he’s not selling them. He’s in the back, busting ‘em. Takes ‘em off, puts ‘em back on.”

I said, “Oh.”

So I kind of stepped back and said, “Tell me about this applicant, Erica.”

So he was young, fell in love, got this girlfriend pregnant. They got married and he took the first job he could to support his family – busting tires.

I said, “Look – it’s up to you. You’ll have to coach him, help him dress himself up a bit. But based on his testing and your interviews, he can do the job.”

Result was, this kid became #1 out of about a dozen salespeople she had.

Point is, there are a ton of real gems who just didn’t start in sales. Most of them never get a chance, because they have no sales experience.

But if you test them and interview them right, you’ll spot them. You’ll have a secret formula.

Meanwhile, your competitors are all looking for previous sales experience and previous industry sales experience. They’ll NEVER find these gems.

I’m Alan Fendrich. Give me a call.

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AVERAGE SALE IS ONE METRIC THAT CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR BUSINESS SURVIVING OR NOT AFTER CORONAVIRUS SHUT DOWNS. SO WHAT NOW?

It should come as no surprise to anyone that while the “reopening” of the economy is hopefully in its early stages, there are a lot of people who will still be hesitant to go out and shop for anything other than absolute necessities. Some will be flat out scared. Other than doing everything you can to reassure potential customers that your business is doing everything possible to protect their safety, there is little else you can regarding their emotional state before walking into or calling your business. You can, however, do a great deal to control their emotions once in your store or on the phone asking about buying from you.

Part of this will be done in a customer service context which is certainly very important. Equally, if not more important, will be how the reduced number of customers you’ll have the opportunity to sell are managed in a sales context. And a key metric that you are able to influence is average sale. This metric will be key to making up for part of the impact fewer customers will have on your business as you pull out of shut down mode. Pushing higher margin items will amplify the positive impact higher average sales will have on your business.

So, how do I increase average sale you might ask? It’s actually quite simple, though not easy. First and foremost, you need to have the best possible sellers taking on the mission of pushing average sale metric. You will need to make them aware of what products are high margin and/or good upsells related to what the customer is planning to buy. Superstar sellers will rise to the challenge if they are well compensated for achieving the goal.

My first job out of college, somewhat to my parents’ dismay, was as a waiter in a touristy seafood restaurant on the downtown waterfront. I learned a lot from that job! I was not the best waiter in the place, but I consistently had higher tickets than the others because I knew that, for the most part, I was going to earn 10-15 cents on every dollar I sold to the diner. Same thing works no matter what the business. If the seller is a real seller and understand what’s in it for him to push that average sale, you’ll both benefit.

These are anxious times for all of us but one thing I’m sure will help your business crawl out of the shut down more quickly is a team of REAL SELLERS who can take their orders knowing there is a big reward for them once the mission is accomplished. And there are more REAL SELLERS looking for jobs right now that there have been in the last decade or more.

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Be Ready Next Time

Imagine, as you’re trying to get your business moving forward again, if you had had a plan to mitigate the consequences of the shutdown. Or some other terrible interruption to the business.

During 2016 South Africa experienced many protests. Most of them were around tertiary education fees. In November 2016, the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) party of South Africa took to the streets of Pretoria.It was mostly calm as the EFF had several marshals walking with the various clusters. Despite the massive police presence, there were a handful of vandals and pyromaniacs around. I also got pelted with a few stones in the process.
Photographer: Pawel Janiak | Source: Unsplash

One thing I think every business owner can say about the current economic meltdown is, “I wish I had…..” Possible answers. Stashed an emergency fund away. Studied my insurance policy and understood exclusions. Been prepared to board my business up quickly if needed. There are literally dozens of other “I wish I had”s.

Therefore, I’d like to suggest you take some time to think about how to prepare for future business interruptions. If you’re not located near the cost, a hurricane is an unlikely serious risk. So step one should be to try to think about what could really happen. We know how a “stay at home order” could shut you down. We are also painfully aware of the risk large scale protests can bring to your business’s well being.

It is no small task to try to imagine everything bad that can happen in life or business. I’m not suggesting anyone do that. But look at what could cause your business to have to shut down for any period of time. There are businesses that have thrived during the pandemic. Some because they were prepared and were positioned to capitalize on any opportunities that arose.

A great place to start in this exercise of preparing for what could be next is to create a checklist. Airline pilots have emergency checklists for everything the engineers can think of that might happen. It is the difference, in many cases, between recovery and crashing and burning. A check list of things to do in a business emergency could do the same for you. To learn how a better sales team can insulate your business from catastrophe, click HERE.

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