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How to Really Interview Sales Applicants

Video Rant #8

We had a new client who was a one-man show. He had no salespeople and no revenue. We helped him advertise effectively, and he got some good sales applicants who all passed our testing. The client rejected every last one of them. I asked why? He said he only hired people with previous sales experience.

That is the basic criteria most sales managers look for in a sales applicant. I tell them, “No. Don’t do that.” And they say, “That’s what I’ve always done. This is what I’m going to continue to do.” The problem, of course, is if you do what you’ve always done, you’ll get what you’ve always got.

Einstein said creativity rules the world. Everybody thinks, “Well, Einstein was a great physicist and that’s why he figured out the Theory of Relativity.”

But in fact, it was because he was creative. He thought in a different way from everybody else. If I’m a good salesperson doing well in a team of mediocre salespeople, then I’m getting all the good leads. Why on earth would I be reading ads, looking for another job? It’s just low odds, I think.

Great thing about Facebook is, you can serve up YOUR ad on that guy’s stream. He wasn’t at all thinking about leaving. But your graphic on his stream catches his attention, and now he’s curious. So he clicks.

We’ve had hundreds of cases where we hired waiters or waitresses or blue collar workers or kids right out of college, first job out of college. We hired them for peanuts, and you couldn’t put the lid on them. They were innovating, thinking up news ways to do stuff. Fact is, the largest pool of people who can sell are NOT selling right now.

We had a client, Erica. First time I met her, she was sales manager for a public radio station in San Francisco. Then, sales manager for a Spanish radio station. She had been using our system, hired a bunch of people successfully. And she called one day, left a voicemail: “Call me immediately!”

I called. She had just interviewed a young applicant. I looked up his test results. He passed both our profiles with flying colors. Perfect sales prospect. I asked, “Did you interview him?” “Yeah.” “How’d he do?” There was a hesitancy in her voice. “Well, he’s a little rough.”

A lot of times, when you hire a salesperson who’s never sold before, they’re a little rough. But once they figure out where the money is, they smooth it down. I said, “Tell me more.” She says, “Well, it’s what he’s doing for a living. Works in a tire store.”

I said, “OK. Sells tires. That’s OK.”

She said, “No, no, no, he’s not selling them. He’s in the back, busting ‘em. Takes ‘em off, puts ‘em back on.”

I said, “Oh.”

So I kind of stepped back and said, “Tell me about this applicant, Erica.”

So he was young, fell in love, got this girlfriend pregnant. They got married and he took the first job he could to support his family – busting tires.

I said, “Look – it’s up to you. You’ll have to coach him, help him dress himself up a bit. But based on his testing and your interviews, he can do the job.”

Result was, this kid became #1 out of about a dozen salespeople she had.

Point is, there are a ton of real gems who just didn’t start in sales. Most of them never get a chance, because they have no sales experience.

But if you test them and interview them right, you’ll spot them. You’ll have a secret formula.

Meanwhile, your competitors are all looking for previous sales experience and previous industry sales experience. They’ll NEVER find these gems.

I’m Alan Fendrich. Give me a call.

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Why Previous Sales Experience Proves Nothing

Video Rant #10

Insisting Applicants Have “Sales Experience” Is a Huge Mistake

Most sales managers refuse to hire any applicant who has no sales experience.

Listen. If somebody with TEN YEARS sales experience applies at your company, ask yourself, “WHY?” Anyone with 10 years in sales should have ALREADY found a home where THEY are the most important person on that sales team. They should be an INTEGRAL part of that company’s success. Their sales manager would rather lose his WIFE than lose this star player.

A star salesperson will NEVER look to start all over again with YOUR company. The applicants YOU get who’ve been in sales 10 years, have bounced from job to job. NEVER made the top of the leaderboard. Why? Because they’re B players. They always come up with excuses for not closing deals.

Look. A wide receiver either caught the ball or he didn’t. No excuses from a great athlete. It’s simple. Succeed or fail.

A lousy salesperson tells you, “I don’t know what happened. It was all going great. Then, last minute, the prospect went goofy and didn’t buy.”

But the truth is, that salesperson didn’t qualify the prospect well enough in the first place. So they wasted all that time on somebody who wasn’t a great prospect.

Lousy salespeople don’t listen. They don’t think through WHY people buy their product. They don’t fill the prospect with reasons why. They don’t figure out what motivates each particular prospect. They don’t fill that prospect with answers to their questions. They just never do what they need to do in order to make the prospect feel like this product solves their needs.

If they were money-motivated enough, they’d figure it out. They’d do all this stuff. But they’re not. Ten years of sales experience will NEVER overcome lack of money motivation. That’s why 75% of sales teams just tread water. And 75% of sales managers are just tread water.

Sales experience is a HUGE misdirection. You need people who can REALLY sell. People who are determined to make a bunch of money, come hell or high water. THOSE guys will build your company bottom line. Don’t focus on experience. Get a ton of applicants, test every one of ‘em, and you’ll find your stars.

This is Alan Fendrich. Give me a call.

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How the Creator of the Lie Detector Test Can Make You a Sales Hiring Wizard

There’s no doubt that salespeople “puff” up the benefits of their products. It’s good selling to amplify the positives. And there’s not a thing wrong with it.

But liars are not puffing, they’re lying. They are attempting to mislead.

With our SalesMatrix™ profile when a sales applicant tries to lie, our test nails them.

We then send our clients a note that we call the “Flag Page.” In it we  point out the applicant is lying.  Sometimes the applicant is under stress and not handling stress well. We point that out too.

The Lie Detector test was designed by a Harvard psychology professor. And now our tests have built that little “liar” function into them for you.

From time to time, clients chose to ignore the Flag Page. It’s their choice. We warned them but “they really liked the applicant.” So they hire them.

The results can be disastrous. One applicant turned out to be on the National Sex Offenders list. I don’t have to tell you how poorly that played out in today’s environment.

Another applicant got hired and was totally disruptive in the office. They said their leads were no good. The company product needed improving. It wasn’t their fault that no one would buy anything. When our client finally let them go, this Flag Page applicant sued them for discrimination on their way out the door.

If you’re sick and tired of fakers and smooth talkers, give us a call at (757) 251-0064. Or book a strategy meeting with us at meetwithalan.com. We’ve been helping sales-driven companies spot the real sellers for 20 years. Let’s talk.

 

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